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We Were Soldiers is FICTION

From: lzalbany65@aol.com
Date: 6/13/2003
Time: 3:01:52 AM
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Well you see I was there

in the movie the only thing true is Moore being the first one on X-Ray and the Bugle being picked up at X-Ray and no he was not the last to leave X-Ray he left on the 3rd lift out and came back. the rest is Fiction as was the story X-Ray part.

Moore didnt see Galloway save Nakayama

anytime you or Moore and Galloway want to back up their story in a court of law let me know.

Mr. JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY HAD NO MILITARY SERVICE, Training AT ALL.

Who am I? lzalbany65@aol.com Russell L. Ross 1741 Maysong ct. San Jose, Ca 95131-2727 ph 408 926-9336

Sept 1965-66 SP/4 Russell L. Ross RA17630469 D company 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry Recon Platoon ( LoneRanger call sign ) 1st Cavalry Division Airmobile An Khe Vietnam.

1964 B company 1st Battalion 511 Infantry ( Airborne ) 11 Air Assualt ( test ) FT. Benning, Georgia.

1965 B company 1/511 became B company 2nd Battalion 8th Cavalry ( Airborne ) 1st Cavalry Division Airmobile FT. Benning, Georgia.

And in July 1965 I was sent to the 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry 1st Cavalry Division Airmobile.

JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY ( Rambo The Reporter ) IS NOW SELLING HIS COMBAT PICTURES FROM LANDING ZONE X-RAY. Joseph L. Galloway The Walter Mitty of the war, Rambo the Reporter, A Plagiarist, Fiction writer, and now add fraud.

Galloway brandishes a Swedish K submachinegun at Danang in August 1965. day battle. Joe prior to Xray battle

He is the only civilian to receive a medal from the U.S. Army for valor during the Vietnam War—a Bronze Star with Combat V for rescuing wounded soldiers under fire in the Ia Drang Valley in November 1965.

( Even though Moore didnt see him do this he wrote him up for it .added by me )

A veteran of 42 years in journalism with United Press International and U.S. News & World Report, he is coauthor with retired Army Lieutenant General Harold G. Moore of We Were Soldiers Once . . . and Young (New York: Random House, 1992).

Galloway—the award-winning newsman and current special consultant to Secretary of State General Colin Powell spoke recently with Fred L. Schultz at U.S. Naval Institute headquarters. STEVE NORTHUP http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/Articles02/PROgalloway02.htm

Why is Joseph L. Galloway altering his combat pictures of Landing Zone X-Ray?? is it becouse they show the truth and not the lies written by Galloway and Moore in their Book We Were Soldiers Once and Young ( The X-Ray part ).

Joseph L. Galloway is altering some of his combat pictures to match the story line in the book, as he now has the equipement to change them.

!!!!!WARNING!!!!! if you buy these pictures, be warned, some of the pictures you see at this web site isnt the orignal pictures.

he has now since changed the ural here is the new ones http://www.weweresoldiers.net/ http://www.weweresoldiers.net/plate2.htm

OLD URAL >> http://www.biggolddog.com/photos.htm

The photographs offered are from the personal collection of Joe Galloway ( Rambo the Reporter ) and were taken at LZ X-Ray during and after the action in the Ia Drang Valley, November 14-16, 1965. The images reflect the savagery of the combat, a feel for the emotions of the soldiers involved and a sense for the terrain in which the battle was fought.

The photographs have never before been published and most have been seen only by a handful of participants in the action. ( Actually some pictures have been published and seen by over 26 million people ) These images will help put a real face on the people, places and events in the upcoming movie, "We Were Soldiers Once...And Young", starring Mel Gibson. A film based on the book of the same name by Lt. Gen. Hal Mooore and Joe.

Ia Drang Scholarship Fund.... As a lasting tribute to the men of the 1st of the 7th Cavalry who gave so much in the Ia Drang, a permanent scholarship fund was established for the children and grandchildren of those who died in action in this heroic event. To honor that commitment, 10% of the purchase price of every Joe Galloway at the Ia Drang photo will be donated to the fund.

Stories Part Fiction he embelished for them. U.S. NEWS and World Report Oct 29,1990 Pg 32 Fatal Victory Pg 36 Vietnam Story.

ARTICLES Galloway Plagarized. U.S. News and World Report Oct 25, 93 Page 45 Step by Step into a Quagmire SOURCE: Stanley Karnows Vietnam a History Pages 479-485.

U.S. News and World Report Feb 4,1991 Page 49 "Who's Afraid of the truth" SOURCE: Soldier of Fortune Dec 84 Pg 104 Press Escorts by Fred Tucker. ( TUCKERS GORRILLAS ).

In the movie Gibson portray Galloway as a Reporter who pick's up a weapon only to protect the wounded. BUT!!! Galloway was the most heavely armed Reporter in Vietnam.

Page 32 Joseph L. Galloway Had wrangled a ride in to the Plie Me camp while it was under siege, and becouse of the shortages of fighters found him self assigned to a .30 cal light machine gun. With two other reporters After the battle was over Major Charles Beckwith hands Galloway an M-16 rifle, Galloway told Beckwith, Strictly speaking, under the Geneva Convention he was "A civilian noncombatant." As you see there is no logic. Galloway has just spent 3 days maning a .30 cal machine gun killing PAVN troops and after the battle is over decides he is a civilian noncombatant?

The question is why didnt Galloway join the service? He was always to busy playing Soldier instead of being a Reporter. He wanted to be at any battle he could get to, to record it, But when he get's there at the battle. He start's to play Soldier. You cant write or record History, While you busy playing soldier.

Of all the reporters in Vietnam, Galloway was the most danegerous to the Americian troops, in His Walter Mitty and Rambo persona. He had no idea what the soldier's job was, He as a reporter and could do what he wanted and go where he wanted to at any time. Joseph L. Galloway( Rambo the Reporter ) ROAMED all over VIETNAM, Killing as he pleased.

Page 35 November 13,1965 Galloway hitched a ride from Pleiku to Catecha the 3 Brigade headquaters Galloway " I dug a foxhole out on the perimeter with B company 1/7, Under one of those $50.00 tea bushes, set out some spare! magazines ( M-16 ).

Galloway playing Soldier, It would have been better if he said I set out some spare film rolls. to record events, his mind set is playing soldier.

Page 32 Galloway writes: " At first lite I pinched of a small piece of C-4 explosive from the emergency supply in my pack and used it to boil up a canteen cup of water for coffee.

Walter Mitty part: If you lit C-4 very carefully you could be drinking hot coffee in maybe 30 secounds. If you were careless it blew your arm off.

If Galloway was so eager to receive the Bronze Star, Then he should be ready to pay the price for violating the UCMJ. Conspiring to take a $500,000 Helicopter and receiving Military equipement, 1 M16 Rifle, 1 Carl Gustaf,

I had to sign for all my equipement as all soldiers did and had to turn it in when I left, Who did Galloway leave the M-16 with, Does he have papers saying he turned it in? The same with the Carl Gustaf, Where did he get it? Did he buy it, Pick it up on the Battlefield? Did he sell it when he left? If he turned it in, Does he have the paper work to show it?

Galloway conspired with a friend ( A Huey Pilot )into flying into Plei Me camp. There were orders for all aircraft to stay out of the area, The friend went AWOL, He and Galloway took the Huey and flew into Plei Me, Beckwith needed, medical, and ammo.

At Plei Me Major Charles Beckwith had put Galloway and 2 other Reporters on a machinegun. and had given Galloway an M-16 Rifle.

MYTH's: Page 156-157 Vincent Cantu and Galloway meet during fierce attack on D and C company's. Galloway was taking pictures. Vincent Cantu braved the fire and sprinted to where Galloway was.

TRUTH: Soldier of Fortune Sept 83 Page 28 Galloway writes "During a ( LULL!!)." I met Vincent Cantu this was before the(skyhawk) naplmed the Command post.

MYTH's: Page 35 Galloway The plantation billed the U.S. $50 for each tea bush and $250 for each rubber tree.

TRUTH: Soldier of Fortune Sept 83 Page 25 Galloway They billed U.S.$25 for each tea bush $125 for each rubber tree.

Galloway only left the saftey of the Command Post During " LULL's " in the Battle, As soon as the firing started up, He would headed right back to the Command post, He only took pictures of the dead and wounded. Where are his action pictures?

Fiction We Were Soldiers Once and Young X-Ray part. page references are from the hardback.

FICTION: Fabarication applies particulary to a false but carefully invented statement or a series of statements, in which some truth is sometimes interwoven, the whole usually intended to deceive.

The Greatest Hero "People everywhere are smitten- With a tale that is written. Once a hero's deeds are known- They're as good as etched in stone. Every word, folks take to heart- And think this makes them very smart. Amazing how the very wise- Never stop to realize- That what they read may not be true. Groo

Moral: Even when the words are true the may not speak the truth Groo

Can you make Col. Klink ( Moore ) and Rambo the Reporter (Galloway ) into hero's pages from the hardback

Lt. Col. Moore was the Col. Klink of the war? He knew nothing, nothing

Page 17 Moore's new concepts & techniques were written in the 1950's FM 57-35 Army Transport Avation-Combat Operations, 1963 FM 57-35 Airmobile Operations. by Officers he worked with? in 1957. Moore in 1957 "I was in on the concept of Airmobility with Gavin, Norton, Seneff Williams". With 2 1/2 years writing, 1 1/2 years training in Airmobile tatics in the 11Air Assault Division Test, for a total of 4 years and yet he retained nothing about Airmobile tatics.

Page 37 Crandall "Moore wanted Aviation present, to be part of his Staff".

Moore, Crandall or his ALO had to coordinate the flight time from Plei Me to X-Ray, flight routes, fire support, resuppy, Medevac Huey.

Moore couldnt plan the operation with out Crandall ( aviation ) present.

Page 60 As Crandall flared the huey to land at Landing Zone X-Ray Moore & his troops starts firing their weapons.

FM 57-35 There is no firing from the helicopter during flight, landing or any other time.

Pity the troop to their right a face full of hot brass, left ear drums ringing, brass on floor or getting caught in the Huey's controls

Moore who had been listening to the battle of Landing Zone Albany on the radio voluntered for the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry to go to Columbus to guard the artillary, So the 2nd Battalion 5th Cavalry could go and reinforce ALBANY.

MYTHS of The Ia Drang Valley Some Officers even Kinnard stated that Moore voluntered to go into ALBANY but he didn’t. and from Persons in the book That Moore and Galloway write good about give in return and adds to the MYTHS about the 1/7 and Moore.

One Reporter Bob Poos of Soldier of Fortune writes that Moore and the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry was the ones who relived the Plie me camp,

Soldier of Fortune March 83 page 29-30 ARVN AMBUSH 3rd column last 2 paragraphs.

Plie Me did get relief- with a vengeance- from the 1st Cavalry Division. Through a strange coincidance, the camp commander, Capt Harold Moore, Learned later that much of the relief force was commanded by a name sake, Lt. Col. Harold Moore commander of the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry.

When in fact it was my old unit the 2nd Battalion 8th Cavalry.

Capt George Forrest when he spoke to the Old Guard said Lt. Col. Moore was there in the 11AAD in 1963.

So starts the myths about Lt. Col. Moore and the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry.

Moore idea would cost time becouse the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry would have to be to Columbus 4 hours, Then the 2nd Battalion 5th Cavalry would have to be flown to Albany another 4 hours. 8 hours to renforce Albany?

So why didn’t Kinnard send the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry to reinforce ALBANY?

They were probally to drunk? they had spent the day of the 17 in the Bars of Pleiku

The most outrageous LIE Page 287 At Landing Zone Albany. There on the dying enemy soldier something shiny. A big battered old French army Bugle.

FACT: This Bugle was captured at Landing Zone X-Ray and brought into Landing Zone Albany by the reinforcements.

Leadership Principle 1 Be Technically and Tactically Proficent To know you job thoroughly, you must posses not only specific knowledge of its details but also a broad general knowledge concerning its area of intrest. you should be competent in combat operations and training as well as in the technical and admimistrative aspects of your duties. If you demonstrate deficincies in these functions,your subordinates will lose confidance in you as a leader.

Moore is under the delusion he has come up with a new Air Assault tatic for the 1st lift would doom his men. for the want of a nail, The 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry. As the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray would grind up, The Troops, Helicopters and Artillary. Making them unavalible for other units.

Leading to the walk to Landing Zone Albany by the 2/7.

What happend. It would appear Moore would be the first one chosen by Kinnard for the 11 AIr Assault test, When it started up in 1963 but he wasnt.

He had To write a letter to Major General Kinnard ( His Old Boss ) begging for a Infantry Battalion in the 11 air Assault Division.

It wasent till 1964, 1 year after it started he got the call. He didnt get one with the 11 Air Assault but instead was given a Infantry Battalion in the 2 infantry Division. The 2nd Battalion 23rd Infantry.

Moore Had never commanded a Infantry Battalion before.

But one of the hand picked officers by Kinnard in 1963 was Lt. Col McDade, He was chosen for the G-1 spot, He would be given command of the 2nd Battilion 7th Cavalry around November 7,1965 aproximately 10 days before the battle of Landing Zone Albany.

McDade Had never Commanded a Infantry Battalion before.

THERE WAS ANOTHER FACTOR, MOORE AND MCDADE WERE HAVING A POWER STRUGGLE.

Keep abreast of current military devolopements. Moore "I thought up a new technique for the inital lift." There are only two types of Air assaults.

Moore under the delusion he had come up with a new technique.

The ground Commander ( Moore ) must concider two general types of Airmobile assault when preparing the ground tatical plan. These types of assaults differ primarily in the proximity of the LZ to the assault objective

The first and preferred type is the landing of the assault ehelons immediately on, or adjacent to, the objective

The secound type of assault involves landing a distance from the objective in a secure LZ, and requires assembly, reorganization, and movement to an attack position prior to the assault on the objective.

What happend to Moore's H-hour.

Moore Get's his H-hour confused with the Attack time in the mission order.

H-hour in air assault terms is difined as the time the lead helicopter touches down on the Landing Zone.

Moore puts the H-hour at H-1030.

He then gets word the Artillary cant fire until H-1017. H-hour get delayed. 1 incremint? ( usually 15 minutes ).

So that should make H-hour, H-1045.

But Moore ( who is in the lead Huey ) dosent set foot on LZ X-Ray until H-1048,

3 minutes late.

Lt. Col. Moore and Joseph L. Galloway's part.( the enlisted mens,Officers, Junior Officers and the 2/5, Bco 2/7 and 2/7 Battalion stories cannot be disputed.)

Moore couldnt READ a MAP? Page 30 November 9, 1965 Moore "What does the RED STAR that is on the intelligence map mean?"

The Red Star is not a military symbol its explanation should have been on the lower right side ( margin ) of the map.

Moore " I had no doubt the 1/7 my Battalion would be chosen to mount the attack into the Ia Drang as the 2/7 had a new commander.

Fact!! " the 1/7 was closer to the objective then the 2/7 " and had nothing to do with the readiness of the Battalions. (Gen.John J Tolson).

Page 17 Moore's new concepts & techniques were written in the 1950's FM 57-35 Army Transport Avation-Combat Operations.1960's FM 57-35 Airmobile Operations.

By Officers he worked with?

Page 17 1957 Moore "I was in on the concept of Airmobility with Pentagon Reasearch and developement group. Moore "I was the 1st man in the Airborne Branch". 4 years writing and training in Airmobile tatics.

Yet Moore retained nothing about Airmobile tatics.

Page 41 Moore "I thought up a new technique for the inital lift".

There are only 2 types of Air assaults This is the 2 one.

Page 37 Crandall "Moore wanted Aviation to be present, to be part of his Staff"

FM 57-35>Both the Ground Commander ( Moore ) and Aviation Commander ( Crandall ) or his ALO had to coordinate>flight time from Plei Me to X-Ray, flight routes,resuppy. Moore couldnt plan the operation with out Avation present.

FM 57-35 Key personnel are distributed among the aircraft of the lift so the loss of one aircraft does not destroy the command structure.

Page 58 Moore and Crandall in the same Huey.

Page 59 The lift is flying at 110 knots.

FM 57-35 When diffrent types of aircraft fly in a single lift, cruising speed of the slower aircraft must be the controlling speed of the lift.

UH-1B's are Gunships fly at 80 knots

UH-1D's are Slicks 110 knots.

I ask Bco's 1/7 3rd Platoon Leader Dennis Deal, why didnt Moore lay on water for his men ( B co would be on the LZ for over 4 hours ) and why he said it was not the Aviations job to haul out Wounded Troops?

B co's 1/7 3rd Platoon Leader Dennis Deal "dont ask me I knew nothing about Airmobile tatics."

Page 106 Moore we needed water, medical supplies and ammo.

Page 107 Bco 1/7 3rd Platoon Leader Dennis Deal by 3pm we ran out of water, the wounded kept begging for water.

Page 145 November 15, 1965 at 6:20am Jemison shared his last drops of water.

Page 112 November 14, 1965 While all day long the Battalion Supply Officer was riding in and out of X-Ray & Galloway came. 240# of water, medical, ammo not coming in, 1 Wounded troop not going out.

Page 106 Moore "hauling Wounded was not the slick crews job" ( Aviation )

FM 7-20 the Battalion Commanders hanbook, Hauling wounded is the secoundary mission of all military aircraft.

Page 63 Moore used his command Huey to haul out a non wounded POW.

Page 167 but none his wounded troops, Lt Franklin terribly wounded was set aside to die.

FM 1-100 Army Aviation The Command and Control Huey is to be used for Command and Control ONLY it shouldnt be used for anyother purpose, like RESUPPLY. .

a Medevac Huey was suppose to fly with the assault echelon ( 1st Lift )

Page 105 a wounded troop was stumbling toward the aid station, Galloway " stay away go back" what was this 17 year old's thoughts 50 feet from the aid station and treatment and told to stay away?

FM 57-35 page 12 paragraph 24 supply 6 miscellaneous. a. probable water supply points are predesingnated. and comes in with the fowllowing echelon.

FM 7-20 page 271 paragraph 313 returning aircraft may be used for the evacuation of casualities.

Galloway had no military service.

COMMAND RESPONSIBILITY no one expects the battalion commander to act as a rifleman no matter how proficient he is.

As he does so.

who commands his battalion?

Who gives guidance to his Company Commanders, he is taking responsibility away from his men and not meeting his own.

Page 34 Moore "I went to school on the Division Commander, authority must be pushed down to the man on the spot.

Page 40 Moore "I personally to influence the action would be in the 1st Huey to land on X-Ray."

Page 60 Moore leading his command group clear a sector of X-Ray, on the way back to the LZ, meet the troops who were suppose to clear that sector.

Page 73 Moore "I was tempted to join A co or C co's company's men"

Page 108 Moore "My operations Officer`& the Avaition Liason Officer had controlled all flights into X-Ray, I then took control, every Huey coming to X-Ray must radio me for landing instructions.

Page 109 Crandall Moore was now a signalman at the far end of the LZ was standing up, directing us where to land.

Page 109 The Brigade Commander had given Moore pathfinders.

Page 195 Moore "I personally lead the final counterattack to make certian that the Company Commander of Bco 2/7 & his men did a safe, clean, job & to look for my Missing Troops.

Moore didnt bring in his execuitive Officer( 2nd in command ) to help run the battalion command post.

Page 39 Moore "we had never maneuvered in combat as a battalion"

Page 28 Moore the Battalion made 2 sweeps near An Khe.

Page 31 nov 9 Moore "We shuttled the Battalion in 16 Hueys"

Page 32 nov 9 Galloway "My first time out with Moores 1/7 Battalion"

Original story Solider of Fortune November 83 Page 25 Nov 9 Galloway "before nitefall Moore waved his battalion across a stream"

Each Huey could carry 10 Troops. 10 troops X 16 Hueys=160 Troops per lift.

Page 30 a enemy base camp

Page 55 a radio transmision intercepted, estamated a N V regiment was near X-Ray

Page 57 commo wire was seen.

Page 39 Moore puts only 80 men (5 per Huey) in the inital lift.

Page 57 riflemen extra ammo all they could carry.

Air Assault tatics emphasize maximum inital lift, to get maximum lift each huey carries minimum amount of fuel + 30 min reserve, with refueling & ammo Points near the Pickup Zone.

Troops only basic load of ammo and web gear (intrenching tool, 2 canteens, bayonet and poncho and 1st aid pack )

Page 40 Moore "later lifts could carry more men 100 as fuel burned off".

Page 198 Rear area Operation Officer Dick Merchant "the Huey could carry 10 men"

Page 111 Winkle"I had a total of 16 men in my Huey".

Fourner "it was left up to each pilot how many men he carried" on later lifts I was carring 9-12 troops.

How it should have happend according to Air Assault Tatics FM 57-35

With only 16 Hueys weight is a factor, so the inital lift ( the assault echelon ) must contain sufficant Troops to secure the Landing Zone. The Alowable Cargo Load the ( ACL ) of each UH-1D for this mission should have been 3,000 pounds as its under 50 nautical miles ( only 14.3 miles to the objective )

using the Space method a space is defined as the weight of a fully combat equiped troop ( 240 pounds ) 10 Troops = 2,400 pounds per Huey.

Page 39 B co 114 troops, A co 40 troops, Ground Commanders command group 6 for a total of 160 troops in the 1st lift.

Moore was a Pilot?

Page 58 Crandall ( The Aviation Commander ) is starting the Huey from the left seat the co-pilot seat, There is no starter on that side.

Page 58 Moore as they load the Hueys "what is the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray"? 14.3 miles.

Page 37 Moore and Crandall plan an Air Assault.

Page 40 with a time table & failed to put down the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray, with out this information, How did they plan the Assault???

Page 58 Mills 13 min 15 sec. Page 59 Speed ( rate ) 110 knots this time will take them 25 miles away.

The correct time is 8 min.

Formula for Time is Distance X 60 divide by Rate ( Speed ) 14.3 X 60 = 858 divide by 110 = 7.8 min = 8 min time is rounded up to the nearest min.

Formula for Distance is rate ( Speed ) X time divided by 60 110 X 8 = 880 divide by 60 = 14.6miles = 15miles miles is rounded up to the nearest 1/2 mile.

using 7.8 min for time for the distance 110 X 7.8 = 858 divide by 60 = 14.3 miles The distance from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray.

Page 188 A blazing flare under an unopened parachute hit the ammo dump, the Sgt.Major grabbed it with his bare hands, it burns at 4,000 degrees, it needs the parachute to lite the candle.

Letter from Randy Wallace, the Screenwriter and Director, about the film:

The Wheelhouse 15464 Ventura Boulevard Sherman Oaks, CA 91403-3002

Randall Wallace 7 February 2001

To all men who fought in the Ia Drang Valley, November 1965, and their families.

Gentlemen,

As many of you have already heard, we are preparing to make a film version of Hal Moore and Joe Galloway's book WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...AND YOUNG.

As you can imagine, this is an enormously ambitious undertaking.

As the prologue of Hal and Joe's landmark book states,

"Hollywood has gotten the story of the Vietnam veteran wrong every damn time, whetting the knives of twisted politics on the bones of our dead brothers."

Well this time we mean to get it right.

This is not to say that any of us making the film are unconcerned with accuracy.

The Disclamer> ( It is not meant to tell the story ) of each individual, ( or to capture the same kind of truth ) a documentary would.

I salute you.

Best regards,

Randall Wallace

1st Cavalry Division as the Division Commander Kinnard had to use the whole of the division resorces to keep Lt. Col. Moore from losing Landing Zone X-Ray.

Kinnard "I violated a lot of priniples about how hard you work your guy's and how many hour's you fly your helicopters."

"I literally flew the Blades off the choppers."

Things wrong with the trailer

Why is Moore shown stepping out of the Huey on the right side at X-Ray? When he was on the left behind Crandall, who was in the co-pilots seat. Page 58 hardback, Page 67 paperback

Moore as they land at X-Ray. as Crandall flared the Huey to land I FIRED burst into the brush to the LEFT, toward the mountian. page 60 hardback, page 69 paperback

Why are there 5 Hueys flying in the formation, when there is supposed to be only 4, in the over head shot there are 6 Hueys.

As they land at X-Ray they are in some type of formation that dosent exist. Page 59 Hardback, Page 68 paperback

The Hueys as they fly to X-Ray are suppose to be in a Heavy left formation, But they are eather in a column, trail formation< left are both are the same formation or an echelon right page 59, page 68 paperback.

COMMAND RESPONSIBILITY No one expects the battalion commander to act as a rifleman no matter how proficient he is, as he does so, who commands his battalion? Who gives guidance to his Company Commanders, he is taking responsibility away from his men and not meeting his own.

"What the hell is the is the colonel doing up here?" Sergeant Thompson ask. page 195 hardback, page 228 paperback

Moore as the battle started " I was tempted to join Nadal's or Edwards men; But I might get pined down and simply become another rifleman." "My duty was to LEAD riflemen." page 73 hardback, page 85 paperback.

Why is Moore shown leading the troops from the 1/7 in the battle for X-Ray, when he didnt, he was in the command post during combat, and only came out during Lull's in the battle. Moore " For almost 8 hours I had been involved in the mimute-to-minute DIRECTION of the battle. Now I wanted to personally walk the perimeter. Just befor dark Sergeant Major Plumley and I broke away from the command post and set out to check the perimeter." page 131 hardback, page 155

the only troops He lead were troops from the B co 2/7 and only the last counter attack on the 16th around noon.

Moore "I personally lead the final counterattack to make certian that the Company Commander Diduryk of Bco 2/7 & his men did a safe, clean, job & to look for my Missing Troops. We killed 27 more and crushed all resistance." Page 195 hardback, page 228 paperback

Moore calles for illumination, and his mortars fire. Moore "No morter fire would be permited especially illumination rounds. I wanted the morters to hold back their illumination rounds for our last light in the sky in case the air and artillery folk used up all of their flares". page 184 hardback, page 216 paperback

Moore didnt call in the broken arrow code Hasting the FAC did page 149 hardback, page175 paperback

What other troops did Moore gets credit for doing it

Posted by: Russell L. Ross on February 26, 2003 02:08 AM

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